Quantcast

A Poem for You

UPTICK

We were sitting there, and
I made a joke about how
it doesn’t dovetail: time,
one minute running out
faster than the one in front
it catches up to.
That way, I said,
there can be no waste.
Waste is virtually eliminated.

To come back for a few hours to
the present subject, a painting,
looking like it was seen,
half turning around, slightly apprehensive,
but it has to pay attention
to what’s up ahead: a vision.
Therefore poetry dissolves in
brilliant moisture and reads us
to us.
A faint notion. Too many words,
but precious.

- John Ashbery

This Recording

is dedicated to the enjoyment of audio and visual stimuli. Please visit our archives where we have uncovered the true importance of nearly everything. Should you want to reach us, e-mail alex dot carnevale at gmail dot com, but don't tell the spam robots. Consider contacting us if you wish to use This Recording in your classroom or club setting. We have given several talks at local Rotarys that we feel went really well.

The New York Series

Martin Scorsese Week

Masthead

Alex Carnevale (e-mail)
Editor-in-Chief            
                                
Molly Lambert (e-mail)         
Managing Editor          
                                  
Will Hubbard            
Executive Editor

Comments? Requests?
This form does not yet contain any fields.
    Search TR


    Classic Recordings
    Robert Altman Week

    Woody Allen Week


    Molly Lambert's Science Corner


    What would Steve Martin eat?


    G.I. Joe & Zorn's Lemma


    Will explains John Ashbery


    Conspiracy of Amber's Bra


    Magic Meets The Middle East


    This Is How The World Ends


    New Tao Lin!


    Boy Met World


    Why Is Kristen Stewart So Sad?


    The Perils of Dating in L.A.


    Young Anjelica Huston Oozes For You


    Belle & Sebastian's 10 Favorite Albums


    Lindsay Loves Samantha


    Drag Us To Hell


    Molly Lambert On Jack Nicholson


    Recovering From The Hangover


    Down with The Elderly

    Morrissey's Wit and Wisdom

    Advice for the Bride and Groom

    YouTube Tour of Disneyland

    10 Best Political Speeches

    The Best Albums of 2008

    Spores Own You Now

    Your Body's Not a Myspace

    Tyler on Romance

    You're Wonderful Cher

    We Were Them, Once 

    Mamet's Genius

    A New Kind of Porn Star

    NYC on the Cheap

    If It Makes Molly Laugh

    Women & Porn

    The Day The Earth Stood Still Sucked

    Skylines Are Suffering

    What To Do About This One

    Music As You Never Heard It Before


    Wolverine Again


    Summer Romance

     Greatest Jokes Ever


    Molly & I Love You, Man


    Paltrow in Two Lovers

    Dick Cheney Is Lost

    Devendra Talks Natalie

    TR Underlings Fight For Status

    Molly Punks Amy Winehouse

    Julie Klausner and Her Sisters


    Molly's Star Trek


    Glory of Artists' Self-Portraits


    Kill Lists Are Common Courtesy

    Shia: Every Mother's Son


    Legend of Georgia's Parents

    Undercover At A Country Club

    Lauren Among the Wackness


    Babes and Fast Cars


    She's Every Woman


    The Best 50 Singles of 2009 So Far


    Wes Anderson & Pauline Kael


    Ruben's Elevator


    Tyler and Cats


    Go boycrazy maybe


    Almie and the shroud of coupledom


    Murder at the MOMA

    The Sci-Fi Future

    Monday
    28Sep2009

    « In Which We Made Ourselves A Love Pyramid »

    Desirable Qualities

    by MEREDITH CHAMBERLAIN

    Last Sunday morning I read an article about guys—about the difference between guys and men. I've read this article before. Read it in between the lines of my friends' faces, my mother's looks, my own sighs.

    Guys are capable of swooning over a new writer they’ve just discovered, or of speaking passionately about some idea. They’re nothing but possibility. That, to me, is a guy: possibility.

    I read this article, from September 19, 2009 and then, later that day I read the same article from September 4, 1970.

    I asked men to sit in the rear and listen while women gave me a series of adjectives on the theme “what I would like to see men become 20 years from now.”

    We are all looking for something. We all have a list of things we are looking for. This list changes, person to person, year to year. There have been so many lists.

    Do men want to be guys? I don’t think men know guys exist, at least not as a permanent condition. They assume guys are boys who haven’t manned up yet.

    I don't make lists, anymore. I like roaming around. Maybe I'll find something new I like. Maybe I’ll take that home with me. Maybe I want peaches tonight, instead of plums. I wouldn't have thought about peaches if I sat down, made a list, put plums on it.

    At first, the men were defensive about adjectives they termed dominantly “feminine,” such as tender, gentle, empathetic, nurturing, artistic.

    Do they make lists? Yes, I think so. But they only publish the abridged versions.

    I want a lady in the streets but a freak in the bed.

    The lists I used to make, they were very long, but I don’t remember what was on them.

    Do guys suffer over not being men? Yes, sometimes. Then they want to talk to women about their feelings of inadequacy.

    I don’t remember you filling me up with a large American meal, taking out your corporate card, placing it on the table, waving me a taxi, handing the driver twenty dollars. I don't remember your plaid shirt, the jobs you had, and the kind of books you read and beer you drank, in between them.

    But the women convinced them that these were desirable qualities that would enhance men’s own evolution as individuals.

    I remember your laugh, your smile, your hand, on my back, in my hand. I remember your voice, remember listening to it. I remember what you had to say.

    Guys are boys who didn’t grow up to be men.

    I remember the human in you.

    By the time the meeting ended the men admitted that the women had listed qualities that they would like to have had but felt they were “not permitted” to develop.

    When you leave the house without a list, it’s easy to forget what is good for you. People are pretty, sexy, rich, funny, charming, they play guitars, their jeans look good on them, and it's easy to forget. I made myself a love pyramid, so I could remember.

    Meredith Chamberlain is the senior contributor to This Recording. She is a writer living in New York City. She tumbls here. She last wrote in these pages about the fall.

    "Ring Ring" - Sleigh Bells (mp3)

    new dates in October @ Sleigh Bells myspace

    Reader Comments (7)

    This is just like men of the 50s calling women "girls" and "chicks"-- seeing them as undeveloped and only "potentiality"-- because for Meredith as for those sexist men, what matters is only what the "guy" or "chick" can do for them-- their potentiality in relation to a vision of maturity that Meredith (or the 50s male) alone can confer-- Meredith says who a man is, and those 50s men got to say who could be a complete person too. Some might think this kind of empowerment crass and backwards, certainly not insightful.

    If you are looking for "potentiality" in anyone but yourself-- in a relationship or promise-- in anything besides work, over a long time-- in whatever area that be, you are adrift. Be you a "guy" or a "chick."

    September 28, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterMonkeyblake

    Hi Meredith,

    This is really good writing..
    I wish I could write like you do..
    For me, It is very hard to write whatever come to my mind without processing..

    BTW, I liked your previous two posts too.

    Thanks
    Hardik

    September 28, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterHardik Patel

    xxoo

    September 28, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterSam

    Thank you Hardik. That is very kind.

    I agree with you Monkey. Neither sex should be confined to the Victorian chaise lounge that society placed in their living room.

    September 28, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterAdrift

    this all just makes me hate ryan reynolds

    September 29, 2009 | Unregistered Commenteralex

    My pyramid would mostly involve BJs and listening to me talk about movies/books/music.
    Also low intelligence and low self-esteem BECAUSE THAT'S JUST HOW I LIKE'EM.

    to each his own I suppose.

    September 29, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterEric

    one of the best pieces of dating advice I ever got:
    "do not get distracted by the baubles on the tree"
    in other words, figure out what you want (this doesnt have to be a list) and then don't get sidetracked by whatever bright shiny object crosses your path.

    and I have not a pyramid, but a quadrant that I like : values, personality, lifestlye, looks/attraction. you need to share values, enjoy complementary personalities, share a similar lifestyle, and be attracted to each other. these are all equally important.

    for example, find someone whose values would not allow them to cheat on anyone, and they are not going to cheat on you. and so on

    September 29, 2009 | Unregistered Commentermeredith hight

    PostPost a New Comment

    Enter your information below to add a new comment.

    My response is on my own website »
    Author Email (optional):
    Author URL (optional):
    Post:
     
    Some HTML allowed: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <code> <em> <i> <strike> <strong>